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October 19th, 2004


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03:51 am - Music ... with fencing in ?
While at the gym earlier tonight, I glanced up at one of the many TV screens around the room. They usually have one of the many music channels available on cable or satellite over here playing, and tonight was no exception, but what caught my eye was a particular video clip, which showed people fencing. Unfortunately, I was at an angle to the screen, so couldn't clearly see what was going on, but I managed to work out that the name of either the band or the song had "stood up" in it, and the channel was called "The Box".
When I got home, I worked out that we have this channel, so I put it on and muted the TV (what, you expected me to listen to today's pop ? I get enough of that at the gym), and kept an eye out for that track. This channel seems to generate its playlist based on viewer "requests", which can only be phoned in a £1 a pop, and so it displays the names and code numbers for the set of songs you're allowed to select your request from at the bottom of the screen. Eventually up came the song I was looking for, "You Stood Up", by a band named "V". (Quoting Google : "Results 1 - 10 of about 290,000,000 for v". What a silly name for a band)

Still, I did find their website through slightly cleverer searching, and among other things, they have this to say about the clip :

Coached by none other than the UK Olympic fencing team while shooting the video, watch V in action by selecting No.137 on The Box. Call 09056 525 11 (calls cost £1)


So, I left this channel on, figuring that eventually enough gullible eager people would vote for that track again, and played computer games for a while.
The song did come on again, and the clip does feature video-clip-ized fencing - foil, it seems, although non-electric and just showing relatively clean and clear hits (so no referee or hand-judges required, then). At the end, though, the final bout ends with one fencer falling down with the last hit. Both fencers remove their masks, revealing the fallen fencer to be male, and the standing one to be female - and she then swipes her foil at his face to leave a small cut in it.
Argh ! For a start, a non-broken foil probably wouldn't leave such a neat slice, but more to the point, she'd be expelled from the competition and possibly the whole season for a stunt like that in real life.
(*deep breath* it's only a video it's only a video it's only a video)

Oh well, at least it does show a bit of fencing. In fact, since it probably gets enough mugs people voting for it to be played 4-5 times a day, it won't take long before you'd see more fencing on this channel than I did during the Olympics (not that I'm bitter).
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Current Music: jungletrain.net

(3 touches | En garde !)

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From:haloumi
Date:October 18th, 2004 09:09 pm (UTC)
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Now if they let people slash at each other's naked faces, instead of this highly choreographed morris dancing with chopsticks that modern fencing has become, then there'd be more people watching.

Weapons are not designed so you can yell "Aha! I touched you! You're it!'. They are designed so that you can yell "Aha! I am supreme" and your opponent can yell.. well, in pain basically.. and expire messily.

The whole thing about fighting with actual weapons is that having an off day is bad for your health. Failing to parry properly or letting your guard down once too often will hurt or, possibly, kill you.

Then again, I am the man who proposed 'Hard' trap shooting which allowed competitive body checking and taking potshots at your opponents.

I don't touch weapons of any kind anymore, except for those which ostensibly have a kitchen purpose. Don't touch guns, toy or real, as I don't really need my weapon skills anymore and there's no point in keeping them in practice in a city. So while I appreciate the physical nature and skill required to be a good fence, I always look at it with my head on one side and wonder why it's still got a (blunted) weapon in it since almost all of the rules seem to be about not hurting people.

I don't think I get the Olympics, somehow. I may have inhaled too much shower room sealant while I was fixing the shower. Your maelstrom may vary.
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From:rwrylsin
Date:October 19th, 2004 12:46 am (UTC)
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Ah, that would be that annoying 21st century thing again.
If I want to learn to kill someone these days I'd have to join an army or something. Not that they'd want me, so just as well I'm happy with a tactical game and exploring the theoretical (and not very practical) limits of a very particular style of swordplay.

I have to dispute choreographed though. Priority rules or no, if your actions are entirely predictable you're not doing it right.
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From:reverancepavane
Date:October 19th, 2004 10:41 pm (UTC)
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Well a friend/aquaintaince of mine did join the army simply so he could be the best swordsman in the regiment. Too much Dumas in his formative years and Lace & Steel in his later years. And I never got the hang of priority rules, but then again, when I learned my meagre amount of fencing knowledge I was fast enough to ignore them.

Besides, Haloumi, if you actually want to prove your manhood their is always schlager...


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